In this episode, host Daniel Diaz and co-host Benjamin Shaffer sit down with John Makan, author of The Bitcoin Gambit, to share his journey from a Bitcoin Maximalist to an economic skeptic, arguing that Bitcoin, while scarce, lacks the fundamental properties to ever truly become “money.” They discuss the looming threat of Quantum Computing to blockchain security, the terrifying reality of the 122% US Debt-to-GDP ratio, and how Universal Basic Income (UBI) and AI could be used to usher in a new era of government-controlled programmable money.

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